Bec tells Nat about an artist’s work she’s recently come across entitled “Shit Moms.” Bec shares that she sometimes feels like a shitty mom, and the sisters then proceed to share stories of their various mom messes. Bec feels more messy than Nat when it comes to how hard she is on herself as a mother. Nat brings up D.W. Winnicott’s notion of the “good enough mother” and tries to help reframe the shit mom feelings they both navigate as positive. She emphasizes the importance of humility and forgiveness as something to be taught to kids when parents own their mistakes. Bec brings a nature metaphor in to close the conversation and Nat’s final reframe is her best yet!